[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call] [00:00:10] EVERYBODY. TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH. THE TIME IS OH EIGHT. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. WE HAD TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL GOOD NOW. SO I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. CAN I PLEASE GET A ROLL CALL? FLORES KALE HERE. TOBIAS HERE. GOZA. PRESIDENT. MEDINA HERE. ZAPATA. HARRIS HERE. MCKINNEY HERE. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE SIX. SO WE HAVE A QUORUM. NEXT. I'D LIKE TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OH. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT, WE HAVE CITIZENS CITY [II) Citizen Comment Period with City Council] COUNCIL COMMENTS. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. SPEAKERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA, ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS, AND WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT RIGHT UP. FIRST I HAVE SHERRY. OH, YOU ARE OKAY. OKAY, SO FIRST WE HAVE TRACY SHARKEY AND SHE IS GOING TO USE SHERRY BOYETT'S THREE MINUTES. HELLO, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TRACY SHARKEY. AND I WANTED TO START DISTRICT SIX. AND I WANTED TO START OFF BY SAYING, EVERYONE HAS ONE OF THESE. AND THIS IS THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOME NUMBERS ON HERE FOR THE CAPITAL COSTS AND ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSES. IT CAME OUT TO $38,285,714. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT TONIGHT, IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THE DISCUSSION, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF THAT REPRESENTED THE COMPLETE ESTIMATED ANNUAL OPERATING COST OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY AND WHAT ADDITIONAL REOCCURRING EXPENSES ARE NOT REPRESENTED HERE. AND THEN ALSO FOR THE PROJECTED OPERATING REVENUE, THERE IS AT THE END, IT'S ABOUT 1 MILLION. AND THIS IS BASED ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES, FIRST YEAR PROJECTIONS OF MORE THAN A MILLION REMAINS UNFUNDED. SO I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND THEN I WANTED TO ALSO CLARIFY WHAT THE RECURRING REVENUE SOURCE IS ANTICIPATED TO FUND THIS, THIS REMAINING AMOUNT, AND WHAT THE PROJECTED ANNUAL TAXPAYER SUPPORTED OBLIGATION IS. AND ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, IT WAS NEVER UPDATED FOR THE ILA. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT IS JUST THAT IS JUST A BIG GLARING PROBLEM WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING IS TO NOT HAVE UPDATED INFORMATION TO MAKE A RESPONSIBLE DECISION. I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK EXTENSIVELY, AND I'M ALSO INTIMATELY AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE COUNTY TRIED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM PREVIOUSLY. I'VE HAD GREAT RESERVATIONS ABOUT DEPENDING ON THE COUNTY FOR ANYTHING UP UNTIL THIS POINT, BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, KYLE COULD NOT AFFORD TO BUILD A RIGHT SIZE SHELTER TO ADDRESS OUR ANIMAL OVERPOPULATION CRISIS AND OPERATED EFFECTIVELY AND RESPONSIBLY WITHOUT HELP FROM PARTNERS LIKE THE COUNTY, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND NONPROFITS. THE ONLY FEASIBILITY STUDY STATES THAT FUND RAISING WILL BE USED TO COVER OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THE SHELTER. THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERYONE LISTENING RIGHT NOW. FUNDRAISING SHOULD NOT BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO OPERATION FUNDRAISING. I'M SORRY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. FUNDRAISING SHOULD BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO OPERATIONS, NOT SCAFFOLDING THAT HOLDS IT UP. THIS PLAN IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT PUTS PUBLIC SAFETY AT RISK. ANYONE THAT SAYS DIFFERENT, I JUST SAY SHOW ME THE MONEY AND NOT THAT HYPOTHETICAL FUND RAISING MONEY, REAL MONEY, OPERATING EXPENSE MONEY. TELL ME WHAT PROGRAMS YOU WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM KYLE AND EXPLAIN TO KYLE HOMEOWNERS HOW THEY WOULD BE DOUBLE TAXED BETWEEN THE CITY AND HAYS COUNTY FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. THE BIGGEST AND MOST CRITICAL RISK FOR A KYLE ONLY SHELTER WITHOUT ENOUGH CAPACITY TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF A RAPIDLY GROWING POPULATION IS PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT AS THE POPULATION GROWS, SO WILL [00:05:04] RATES OF RABIES, DOG BITES, ATTACKS AND MAULINGS ONE CAR ACCIDENTS INVOLVING STRAY ANIMALS, LAWSUITS, DOGS GETTING SHOT, INCREASED CALLS TO PICK UP DEAD ANIMALS OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, INCREASE, EUTHANASIA RATES RISING AND THE SHELTER BEING DEMONIZED BY THE BY THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN EUTHANASIA RATES RISE. ADDITIONALLY, MORE MONEY WILL BE SPENT BY COMING IN ON THE BACK END OF THE CRISIS TO MANAGE IT. AND I'M ASKING FOR FOUR THINGS. I'M ASKING THAT YOU POSTPONE YOUR DECISION TONIGHT UNTIL AFTER AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, SO WE CAN SEE WHO WILL BE JUDGED FOR HAYS COUNTY. AND IF COMMUNICATION OPENS UP, I'M ASKING THAT YOU APPOINT A CITY OF KYLE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE ARCHITECT. I'M ASKING THAT YOU ESTABLISH AN ANIMAL SHELTER COUNCIL COMMITTEE, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, TO WORK WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND PROVIDE ONGOING COMMUNICATION, OVERSIGHT AND COORDINATION. AND I'M ALSO ASKING THAT YOU BEGIN THE TRANSITION OF PROCESSING, MOVING ANIMAL CONTROL AND PROTECTION FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT MODEL TO A STANDALONE DEPARTMENT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT YOU WORK FOR US, AND THIS IS OUR ANIMAL SHELTER THAT THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR. OUR COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER. WE'VE ASSEMBLED, WE'VE ORGANIZED, WE'VE STRATEGIZED, AND WE'RE TAKING OUR SEAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE WE'RE NO LONGER WILLING TO SIT BACK AND LET ANIMAL WELFARE BE ON THE MENU YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. WE MUST GET THIS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOR THE FUTURE OF ANIMAL WELFARE IN TEXAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE LARRY GARLICK. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LARRY GARLICK. I LIVE IN. LEADERSHIP MATTERS. OVER A YEAR AGO, THE COUNCIL THRUST UPON THE KYLE ETJ A PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE WATER AND WASTEWATER INCREASE. I APPEARED IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL BEFORE THE RATES WERE PASSED. THE NIGHT THE RATES WERE PASSED AND SEVERAL MEETINGS. AFTER THE RATES WERE PASSED, I ASKED FOR RELIEF. I WROTE EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER SEVERAL EMAILS, INCLUDING STAFF. I WROTE STAFF AS WELL. I GOT ONE RESPONSE. THAT'S FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS. AND I THANK YOU, SIR. I SPENT HOURS EACH WEEK TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE THAT WOULD LISTEN. I RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. YOU. YOU'VE SEEN ME APPEAR HERE FOR NEARLY EVERY MEETING OVER THE PAST YEAR. I MADE NO PROGRESS THROUGH MID THROUGH MID NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, SO I FELT THE ONLY AVAILABLE OPTION TO ME AS AN ETJ CUSTOMER WAS THROUGH THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION. THAT WAS MET WITH EVEN GREATER SILENCE FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL. THAT'S ALL I WAS ABLE TO WRITE DOWN. I'LL SPEAK FROM THE HEART NOW. LEADERSHIP MATTERS. ONCE THE CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP. I STARTED FEELING LIKE I WAS BEING HEARD. I HAD MEMBERS ON THIS COUNCIL THAT WOULD REACH OUT TO ME. THEY WOULD ASK ME QUESTIONS. THEY WOULD TALK TO ME, ASK ME WHO ELSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SIX CREEKS OR OTHER AREAS OF THE ETJ THEY COULD TALK TO TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT RATE INCREASE WAS DOING TO THEIR LIVES. I KNOW PEOPLE THAT SOLD THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF THAT RATE INCREASE. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. BUT LIKE I SAID, NEW LEADERSHIP CAME IN, THEY LISTENED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO TALK. AND ONCE WE HAD A FORMER CITY MANAGER LEAVE, I FELT I WAS CERTAINLY BEING HEARD BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO STAFF NOW. AND THAT WAS A GREAT RELIEF BECAUSE WHILE WE DIDN'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, AT LEAST IT WAS BEING HEARD BY THE CITY. THE CITY WAS RESPONDING AND THAT FELT GREAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PAST FOUR MONTHS WHERE I AGAIN, I FELT LIKE I WAS BEING HEARD. I THINK WE REACHED AN AMICABLE RESOLUTION, AND I CERTAINLY [00:10:06] HOPE YOU ALL VOTE TO PASS THAT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE. HEY THERE. I'M HERE JUST REPRESENTING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. YOU GUYS RECENTLY HAD SOME TOWN HALL MEETINGS WHERE JUDGE BECERRA GOT UP AND WAS VERY EXCITED TO SAY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ANGRY BECAUSE THEY WERE WEEKS AWAY FROM TURNING DIRT ON A NEW COUNTY SHELTER. WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THAT'S A FALSEHOOD OR FLAT OUT LIE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT. THERE WAS NO LAND. THERE WAS NOTHING PURCHASED. THEY HAD NO ARCHITECT, THEY HAD NO DESIGN. THEY HAD NO BUILDER. THEY HAD NO FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. SO THAT TURNING DIRT IN A FEW WEEKS IS RIDICULOUS. SECOND OF ALL IS WHY WE DECIDED THAT WHEN KYLE JUST WANTED TO DO THEIR OWN THING, BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKING CHARGE OF THEIR OWN PROBLEM HERE IN THE CITY, IT WAS LIKE A NEW STAR THAT Y'ALL CAN COMBINE TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TRUST THE COUNTY TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND KYLE WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING, AND Y'ALL WERE DOING IT QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AND TRYING TO DO IT RIGHT. AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S FINANCIAL ISSUES, AND THAT'S WHY WE GO BACK TO COMBINING IT TOGETHER SO THAT YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR MOST OF IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE A WIN WIN TO ME. JUST DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP. YOU HAVE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF IT. THEY INCORPORATE THE RESOURCES. THEY WANT TO DO IT WITH PARTNERSHIPS. AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO STILL CONTINUE WITH ISLA. MAYBE WE'LL JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS NOVEMBER 2ND. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL GOING TO BE BACK TO WHERE WE ARE AGAIN. AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS A FEW TIMES. HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW THAT IT DOES NOT INCORPORATE HAYS COUNTY, BUT GOOD THAT FIGURE OUT THE REST OF IT. BUT AT LEAST THE KYLE IS HERE. ALL OF THE HAYS COUNTY IS ALL AROUND Y'ALL. EAST. KYLE HAS A SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH ANIMALS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN SHELTERS ANYWAYS. AT LEAST THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM. IF NOT, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO END UP THERE AND IT'S ALL ON YOUR PLATE. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. STAY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. LET'S BUILD SOMETHING NICE. LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. THAT'S IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT I HAVE KAREN. SO SO MY NAME IS MICHAEL AND I WANTED TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO THE COUNCIL. MAYOR PRO TEM. I SERVE ON THE ANTHEM BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE MUD BOARD OF DIRECTORS, I SHOULD SAY. AND TODAY WE MET WITH YOUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION OVER THE CHANGES THAT WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE AS A AS A RESPONSE TO THE PUC MEETING THAT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED AND IS CURRENTLY TEMPORARILY PUT ASIDE. AND I THINK WE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY PLEASED AND HAPPY TO HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. AND I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY. WHAT I WHAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RISE AND, AND, AND SAY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT THE OUT OF A RATE CAP THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONSIDER TONIGHT AT 1.2 RATHER THAN 1.3. I THINK THAT THAT'S A MUCH MORE. APPROPRIATE LEVEL FOR OUT OF CITY CUSTOMERS FOR THE WATER SITUATION. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THE FOLKS FROM SIX CREEKS TONIGHT THAT I KNOW OF PEOPLE IN ANTHEM THAT HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO SELL THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF THE PAIN OF THE THE NEW WATER RATES THAT THEY HAD TO ENDURE. SO I WOULD JUST SAY TO YOU THAT THIS IS THIS IS A MATTER OF TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, ESSENTIALLY. I MEAN, WE AT IN THE SUBDIVISION, YOU KNOW, WE SEE OURSELVES AS KYLE RESIDENTS, EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY NOT SEE US THAT WAY. AND OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR GOAL IS TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE AT SOME POINT CAN BE LIKE SIX CREEKS AND NOT BE PAYING ADDITIONAL MONEY AND JUST BE CONSIDERED CUSTOMERS OF THE WATER SERVICE. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND I [00:15:03] THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD TODAY. I THINK IT'S A MEANINGFUL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND I'M SURE THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME CONCLUSIONS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO ALL OF US. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT, KENNETH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. SO ONE GOES TO STAFF. SO WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL IS A ONE YEAR EXTENSION ON THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER AGREEMENT. SO THAT BUYS US A LITTLE RUNWAY. RIGHT. BUT I WANT TO SAY PLAINLY THE ANIMAL SHELTER SITUATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF Y'ALL IS NOT A CRISIS THAT WE'RE STUCK WITH. IT'S A SOLVABLE PROBLEM. FOR TWO YEARS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS OPERATED UNDER PRESSURE OF A HARD DEADLINE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND EVERYTHING FELT RUSHED. THAT PRESSURE LED TO REAL PROGRESS AND COLLABORATION WITH OUR ADJACENT CITIES, BUT ALSO HIGHLIGHTED WHAT NOT TO DO, LIKE MAKING DECISIONS UNDER URGENCY RATHER THAN CLARITY. TONIGHT, YOU'LL SEE STANDALONE OPTIONS WHOSE FOOTPRINT SHRANK, THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT WENT UP, AND A FUNDRAISING ASSUMPTION BUILT DIRECTLY INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY ITSELF WILL RUN AT A DEFICIT. THE NEWS THAT SAN MARCOS IS EXTENDING REGIONAL SERVICES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 2027 IS NOT A REASON TO RELAX. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY DO THIS WORK IN THE RIGHT ORDER. FACT FINDING FIRST, DECISION SECOND INSTEAD OF THE OTHER WAY AROUND. WE NOW HAVE REAL INFORMATION WE DIDN'T HAVE A YEAR AGO. WE KNOW KYLE'S OWN INTAKE DATA PULLED DIRECTLY FROM THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER RECORDS. WE NOW KNOW WHAT OTHER REGIONS HAVE ACTUALLY DONE, NOT JUST PROPOSED, WHETHER IT BE. AND SEVERAL OPTIONS ARE IN FRONT OF US. A STANDALONE SERVICE WITH INDEPENDENT FOUNDATIONS, SUPPLEMENTING PROGRAMS ON TOP OF THE REQUIRED FUNDING. WE HAVE A CO-LOCATION STANDALONE MUNICIPAL SHELTER THAT WE CAN THINK OF, OR A COUNTY RUN, SINGLE ACCOUNTABLE REGIONAL OPERATOR. INSTEAD OF SPLITTING AUTHORITY THREE WAYS OR CONTINUING WITH OUR LILA, NONE OF THE OPTIONS HAVE TO BE A BLIND CHOICE. WE HAVE THE DATA. WE HAVE WORKING MODELS TO LEARN FROM. WE NEED THE DISCIPLINE AND LEADERSHIP TO USE THE EXTRA YEAR DELIBERATELY TO DEFINE WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL SERVICES THIS COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WANTS, STAFFED AND FUNDED. HONESTLY, BEFORE WE EVEN THINK ABOUT POURING CONCRETE, THIS IS A SOLVABLE PROBLEM. LET'S USE THE TIME WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO SOLVE IT, RIGHT? I SEE THERE'S OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE IN THIS MATTER AND AND ON THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THANKS, STAFF. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FORMS. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK BEFORE I CLOSE CITIZENS COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE CITIZENS COMMENTS. WE HAVE A [1) A proclamation recognizing Hispanic Heritage Month.] PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH SPONSORED BY MYSELF. SO IT'S THE 15TH. SO ON THE 15TH IT STARTED AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. AND OUR CITY IS COMPRISED OF AT LEAST 50% HISPANICS. AND SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND START MY PROCLAMATION. SO WHEREAS HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE IS WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT COULD BE SEEN IN OUR FAMILIES, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR TRADITIONS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IN THE MANY RESIDENTS WHO GIVE THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO MAKE KYLE A STRONGER AND MORE WELCOMING PLACE FOR ALL. WHEREAS, HISPANIC AND LATINO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PART OF THE STORY OF WHAT IS NOW THE UNITED STATES FOR CENTURIES, INCLUDING THOSE WHO FOUGHT ALONGSIDE COLONIAL FORCES DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND HISPANIC AMERICANS HAVE PROUDLY SERVED IN EVERY MAJOR U.S. CONFLICT. AND WHEREAS THE OBSERVANCE OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR AND REFLECT UPON THE ACHIEVEMENTS, HISTORY, CULTURE, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF HISPANIC AMERICANS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE GENERATIONS WHO HAVE HELPED SHAPE THE COMMUNITIES WE CALL HOME. AND WHEREAS HISPANIC AMERICANS ARE A VITAL PART OF THE WORKFORCE CONTRIBUTING TO AGRICULTURE, CONSTRUCTION, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, SERVICE INDUSTRIES, TECHNOLOGY, AND COUNTLESS OTHER FIELDS, AND HISPANIC ENTREPRENEURS, [00:20:01] INNOVATORS, ENGINEERS, EDUCATORS, HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS, AND BUSINESS LEADERS CONTINUE TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES AND STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS, DESPITE FACING CHALLENGES SUCH AS ECONOMIC BARRIERS, EDUCATIONAL GAPS, AND IMMIGRATION RELATED UNCERTAINTIES, HISPANIC AMERICANS EMBODY THE AMERICAN DREAM. THEIR DETERMINATION, RESILIENCE, AND WORK VALUES ESTABLISHED BY STRENGTH FROM FAMILY, COMMUNITY NETWORKS AND CULTURAL HERITAGE TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEMSELVES AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. AND WHEREAS HISPANIC AMERICANS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES, CONTINUING TO BUILD AND DEFEND THE NATION, SHAPE ITS CULTURE AND IDENTITY, AND EXPAND POLITICAL AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WITH RESILIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, PERSEVERANCE, SOCIAL MOBILITY, AND CONTINUED GAINS IN HIGHER EDUCATION. HISPANIC AMERICANS WILL REALIZE THEIR FULL POTENTIAL AND WILL FOREVER EMBRACE THEIR HISTORY WITH PRESERVATION, PRIDE. DRIVING THE NEXT CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN STORY. AND WHEREAS, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH REMINDS US THAT OUR DIFFERENCES ARE NOT BARRIERS TO COMMUNITY, BUT PART OF WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY STRONGER, AND THAT BY HONORING WHERE WE COME FROM, WE CAN BETTER APPRECIATE THE SHARED FUTURE WE ARE BUILDING TOGETHER NOW. THEREFORE, I, YVONNE FLORES, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF KYLE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, 2026 AS NATIONAL, AS SORRY AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF KYLE AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND BUSINESSES TO CELEBRATE AND HONOR THE ACHIEVEMENTS, CONTRIBUTIONS, AND CULTURE OF HISPANIC AMERICANS AND ALL WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT, WE HAVE A CONSIDERING POSSIBLE [2) Consider approval of a Resolution authorizing a settlement agreement with the 6 Creeks petitioners, represented by Larry Gawlik and Victor Aellen, related to Docket No. 58988 before the Public Utility Commission of Texas, which provides for the withdrawal of the petition filed by the 6 Creeks petitioners in exchange for an agreement from the City to classify the 6 Creeks customers as inside-city customers beginning with first billing cycle of the new fiscal year, which starts on October 1, 2026.] ACTION. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE SIX CREEKS PETITIONERS PRESENTED, REPRESENTED BY LARRY GORELICK AND VICTOR ALLEN, RELATED TO DOCKET NUMBER FIVE, 8988 BEFORE THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS, WHICH PROVIDES FOR THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE PETITION FILED BY THE SIX PETITIONERS IN EXCHANGE FOR AN AGREEMENT FROM THE CITY TO CLASSIFY THE SIX CREEKS CUSTOMERS AS INSIDE CUSTOMERS, BEGINNING WITH FIRST BILLING CYCLE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH STARTS OCTOBER 1ST, 2026. ITEM PRESENTER AMY ALCORN REED. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND CITY ATTORNEY. FOR THE RECORD, WE WENT THROUGH THIS PRETTY THOROUGHLY LAST MEETING. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AGAIN, BUT I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AS IS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER. HE GAVE A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION LAST MEETING, SO PRETTY SURE WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO. I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. WE ARE. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND [3) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding future options for the Kyle Animal Shelter. ] PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING FUTURE OPTIONS FOR THE KYLE ANIMAL SHELTER ITEM PRESENTER JESSE ELIZONDO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE TURN YOU ALL OVER TO COMMANDER GOODMAN THERE, DID YOU HEAR? WE WANTED TO BRING BACK THE FOLLOW UP TO THE JULY 30TH KYLE VISTA PRESENTATION WITH THE FUTURE OPTIONS FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS. IT IS THE FOLLOW UP ITEM TO THAT. AND TO THAT POINT, I GUESS I'LL JUST LOOK ON HERE. ALL THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY ON THAT SCREEN. TO THAT POINT, I'M GOING TO GO OVER JUST A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW FOR ANYONE WATCHING THAT WASN'T PART OF THE JULY 30TH MEETING, BUT JUST TO TO SKIP TO THE END, THE THE VOTE AT THE END OF THAT MEETING, THE DIRECTION AT THE END OF THAT MEETING WAS TO BRING BACK. WE SHOW SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR TO BE EXACT, TO BRING BACK OPTIONS, AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF OPTION TWO, WHICH WAS TO CONTINUE THE REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP WITH HAYS COUNTY AND BUDA ON A DIFFERENT SITE, NOT SITE AND OPTION THREE, WHICH WAS TO DEVELOP A STANDALONE FACILITY JUST TAKING CARE OF COWS. CITY LIMITS ON ALSO ON A SEPARATE SITE. PART OF THAT MOTION WAS TO INCLUDE CAPITAL COSTS, OPERATING COSTS, INTAKE CAPACITY, ASSUMPTIONS, STAFFING, SIZE, PROGRAMING, PARTNERSHIPS, FUNDING CONSIDERATION. AND I WILL SAY BEFORE WE GET STARTED, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME SAY THIS SEVERAL TIMES. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE OPTIONS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY BEGINNING OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. YES, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE LOTS OF DATA. WE HAVE LOTS OF ANALYSIS. WE HAVE A FEASIBILITY STUDY. WE HAVE A PROGRAM CONFIRMATION THAT WE DID WITH JACKSON AND RYAN, BUT WE HAVE COME ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING ON THIS OPTION. THREE OF WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS FACILITY, WITH LA WITHIN OUR OWN CITY OR PARTNERSHIP WITH HAYS COUNTY? SO BY THE END OF TONIGHT, THERE'S ALSO A FOURTH OPTION THAT HAS KIND OF COME UP, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HIT IT. BUT BY THE END OF TONIGHT, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR COUNCIL FOR THAT DIRECTION. [00:25:04] AT HIGH LEVEL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS. AND I BELIEVE BRIANNA IS HERE AND WE CAN BRING HER UP AND DISCUSS THAT. BUT BUT I DON'T I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR FIRST STEP FORWARD IN MOVING FORWARD FOR TAKING CARE OF THIS FOR US. AND THEN ALSO, IT WAS VERY CLEAR IN THAT MEETING AND HAS BEEN IN SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS THAT THIS IS NO LONGER CONSIDERED AS AN ANIMAL SHELTER LOCATION. SO THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CLEARED UP. SO JUST AS A VERY QUICK RECAP, ON JULY 30TH, WE HAD A WHOLE PROPERTY OVERVIEW. I WON'T BORE YOU BY RUNNING DOWN ALL THESE DIFFERENT POINTS. HISTORY OF VISTA THAT WE LOOKED AT THE DAS, THE CHAPTER, WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT. BUT REALLY THE POINT IS, ON NUMBER TEN, WE LOOKED AT OPTIONS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION AND THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS. NOW I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE AS A RECAP. I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M NOT GOING TO. WE'LL JUMP RIGHT TO THE OPTIONS. OPTION ONE WAS TO CONTINUE THE ILA AS PRESENTED ON CAL VISTA THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL WAS A VOTE THAT NIGHT EMPHATICALLY AND SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS HAVE SAID HAS PASSED RESOLUTIONS FOR THAT TO BE A. AND THAT'S A. ANY FAMILY FEUD FANS. THAT'S A NO. THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE OFF THE TABLE DONE SO THAT THAT OPTION IS GONE. WAS ASKED WAS TO BRING BACK OPTION TWO. AND THERE'S NO I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN THE BACKUP, BUT FOR ANYONE WATCHING, THERE'S NO NEED TO MEMORIZE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH IT ALL. BUT OPTION TWO WAS TO CONTINUE THAT ILA THE HAYS COUNTY PARTNERSHIP, BUT ON A DIFFERENT SITE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMPARISON TO BRING BACK OPTION THREE WAS TO CONTINUE A STANDALONE FACILITY JUST FOR THE CITY OF KYLE'S NEEDS ON A DIFFERENT SITE AS WELL. OPTION FOUR WAS DISCUSSED. THIS WAS TO NOT HAVE A CITY OWNED FACILITY AND TO LOOK AT SOME SORT OF CONTRACTED MODEL, SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH NONPROFITS. IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT NIGHT. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY VOTED DOWN, BUT IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY ASKED AS AN OPTION BE BROUGHT BACK BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS WITH IT AND THINGS WE DON'T KNOW. HOWEVER, IN THE BACKUP, I HAVE AN X ON THIS OPTION. WE TOOK THE X OFF BECAUSE OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND HONESTLY, THE LAST FEW DAYS, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THIS AREA. SPECIFICALLY, ONE PAUSE AND AUSTIN PETS ALIVE HAVE NOW JOINED INTO A PARTNERSHIP, AND WE HAVE HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT THEY MIGHT BE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING IN KYLE. WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT. I'LL TALK ABOUT IT TOWARDS THE END. WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO HAYS COUNTY, ASKED THEM HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT LA AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. THEY GAVE US SOME INTERESTING ANSWERS. SO OPTION FOUR, MAYBE NOT THIS SPECIFIC OPTION FOR, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A THIRD OPTION IN THIS. IN YOUR FINAL VOTE TONIGHT FOR DIRECTION TO REEVALUATE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HAYS COUNTY, WITH THOSE NONPROFITS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING. AND AS I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS, THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP IN NOVEMBER THAT COULD CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF SOME OF THESE THINGS. SO RATHER THAN JUST SAYING COUNCIL OPTION 2 OR 3, WE KIND OF HAVE A THIRD THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AS WE GO THROUGH. BUT I DO WANT I THOUGHT ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT WAYS TO SHOW THIS, FROM AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. BUT I FINALLY LANDED ON WAS, LET'S GO THROUGH OPTION TWO FULLY. LET'S GO THROUGH OPTION THREE FULLY, AND THEN LET'S JUST PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE AND HAVE COUNCIL JUST HAVE A FULL VIEW OF WHAT LOOKS FOR ME FROM EITHER ONE. SO WE'LL START WITH TWO. AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE ILA OPTION ON A SEPARATE SITE NOT ON VISTA. THIS IS THE HAYS COUNTY PARTNERSHIP ILA WITH WITH BUDA. SO WE'LL START WITH THE CAPITAL COSTS. THE CAPITAL COSTS. WE ESTIMATE BASED ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH WAS OUR ORIGINAL IN CITY FEASIBILITY STUDY. BUT AT THE END OF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY, I KNOW SOMEONE MENTIONED DURING CITIZEN COMMENT THAT WE NEVER LOOKED AT THIS PARTNERSHIP FROM AN ILA. WE ABSOLUTELY DID. THE JACKSON ORION NOT ONLY TOOK THE CITY'S FEASIBILITY STUDY, BUT LOOKED AT IT WITH THIS PROGRAM AREA. AND THEN AFTER WE HAD A DESIGN CONTRACT APPROVED, THEY DID TWO FULL WEEKS WITH BOTH STAKEHOLDERS AND CITIZEN INPUT TO DO A PROGRAM CONFIRMATION, WHICH WAS LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE LOOKED AT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD FITS WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WERE COMING FROM THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER. SO THERE WAS A LARGE EVALUATION OF WHAT WE COULD DO WITHIN THIS SERVICE AREA. BASED ON THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND A 31,000 SQUARE FOOT REGIONAL FACILITY AT ABOUT 700 PER SQUARE FOOT. IF YOU WANT STAFF'S GENUINE OPINION ON THIS, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE THAN 700 SQUARE FOOT. AND THE REASON IS THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO IN TAKING THIS, THESE TYPES OF ANIMALS AND THIS AMOUNT OF ANIMALS IS GOING TO DRIVE THE COST OF THE FACILITY HIGHER. HOWEVER, THAT IS WHY WE SPLIT IT WITH THE PERCENTAGES THROUGHOUT FROM THE PARTNERS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A 21,700,000, PROBABLY MORE OF COST FOR THAT BUILDING. IT'S A LARGER BUILDING. YOU GET A LOT MORE IN THE BUILDING, BUT AS YOU'LL SEE WITH INTAKE, A LOT MORE IS COMING INTO IT. THIS IS, BY THE WAY, CONSTRUCTION COSTS ONLY IF WE HAVE TO DO DIRT WORK, IF WE HAVE TO BUY THE LAND. THOSE ARE SEPARATE COSTS. BUT THIS CONSTRUCTION ONLY I'LL MOVE. I'LL MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THE BREAKDOWNS, BUT THE BOLD ONES ARE THE ONES TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON. CAL'S SHARE OF THAT, 21,700,000 WOULD BE 7,000,007.1 MILLION OPERATING COSTS. BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MUCH LARGER FACILITY, WE'RE TAKING IN SO MANY MORE ANIMALS IN THIS [00:30:02] REGION. WE WE ESTIMATE 2 MILLION TO 4 MILLION IN OPERATING COSTS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THERE. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.32 MILLION AS KYLE'S SHARE. THE END DATE IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE DO APPLES TO APPLES, THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY SPLIT FROM A CITY MODEL VERSUS THE HAYS COUNTY MODEL. I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHY. THIS SERVICE AREA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, IT'S NOT JUST AROUND KYLE BUDA AND ETJ IN THAT ISLA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER PRESENTED THIS OR SAID IT JUST, YOU KNOW, BLUNTLY IN A COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF ANYTHING THAT'S IN THAT RED AREA. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT NIEDERWALD, IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT YOU. WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THOSE AREAS. ANYTHING WITHIN THAT AREA WE ARE TAKING CARE OF, THIS AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 75 PLUS PERCENT OF HAYS OF THE INTAKE FOR ALL OF HAYS COUNTY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH OF IS THIS A REGIONAL SHELTER? IS A REGIONAL SHELTER OR IS IT A REGIONAL SHELTER? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 75%, 80% OF HAYS COUNTY, YOUR SHELTER, I MEAN, I THAT'S AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET TO A REGIONAL SHELTER IN THIS AREA AND THIS WHOLE SERVICE. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS ILA. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ANIMALS. AND AS BRIANNA, BRIANNA COULD TELL YOU, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT ARE COMING IN AS WELL IN THE ANIMALS. DOMESTIC ANIMALS IN THE CITY ARE VERY DIFFERENT MOST OF THE TIME THAN PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS JUST BECAUSE OF OF MULTIPLE FACTORS. BUT IT IS ABOUT A THREE BASED ON THE DATA WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT A THREE X MULTIPLIER ON THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY IS THE FULL BASE, I THINK KNOWS THIS BASED ON PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS. WE'RE THE FULL MANAGING PARTNER, OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY. SO WHILE WE TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY, IT WOULD BE ON US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY. WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA. WE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYTHING OUT, SO WE WERE GOING TO PUT WE WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FUNDING AND ALTERNATE SITE LOCATIONS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY AT THE BEGINNING HERE. SO I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON FUNDING, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON SITES, BUT WE REALLY NEED A DECISION AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND WE'RE DOING, WE'LL SAY, AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING ON JULY 30TH. THESE WOULD MOST LIKELY BE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION BONDS FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE, IF WE'RE TRYING TO HIT A CERTAIN DEADLINE, IF WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY, IF WE'RE DOING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, THAT TAKES US BASED ON OUR THE WAY THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON OUR BOND SCHEDULE AND HOW WE WOULD DO IT INTO PROBABLY 20 THE 2728 ELECTION. AND ALSO, PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF IT HAPPENED TO FAIL, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND BOND FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE OF THE BOND, WHICH IT COULD BE. THAT COULD BE A CRITICAL PIECE OF, OF NEEDING TO, TO BUILD AN ANIMAL SHELTER. SO FOR THAT REASON, FOR THOSE REASONS, IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE CO BONDS. AND THEN FOR THIS LARGER FACILITY, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LARGER FOR THIS AMOUNT OF INTAKE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 6 TO 7 ACRES OF LAND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A SEPARATE SITE. SO LET'S LOOK AT THOSE. THIS WILL GO FASTER. LET'S LOOK AT THOSE SAME LET'S LOOK AT THOSE SAME EXACT EVALUATIONS BUT FROM A STANDALONE FACILITY. SO THE CATTLE COST WE LOOKED AT 12 TO 18,000 SQUARE FOOT BASED ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS JUST WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE. AND THE NUMBERS LOOKING AT AROUND 500 SQUARE FOOT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN A FACILITY THAT'S JUST FOR KYLE VERSUS A FACILITY THAT'S TAKING CARE OF THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS AND THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT ARE COMING IN WITH THE ILA WOULD ALLOW US TO LOWER SOME OF THOSE COSTS. SO YOUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 6 MILLION AND 9 MILLION TOTAL. YOUR OPERATING COSTS FOR THE CITY WOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH SMALLER OPERATION, WOULD BE 1 MILLION TO 1.5 MILLION. AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE THEY DIVERGE GREATLY. THE INTAKE OF THE TYPES OF ANIMALS WOULD BE THREE TIMES LOWER, AND WE WOULD NEED FEWER KENNELS, A SMALLER FACILITY, AND IN SOME CASES LOWER STAFFING AND OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH JUST MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TAKING IN LESS ANIMALS AND YOU'RE NOT DOING AS MUCH FOR SUCH A LARGE AREA. THE FACILITY AND STAFFING THIS WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER FACILITY, NOT NECESSARILY WORSE, JUST SMALLER BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF. IT WOULD ONLY BE CITY CITY ONLY. BUT I WILL SAY THAT NOT ALL POSITIONS SCALE PROPORTIONALLY. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF YOU NEED A VET, YOU'RE A VET, WHETHER IT'S A SMALLER FACILITY OR NOT. SO THERE'S SOME POSITIONS THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. BUT AS FAR AS THE FULL BUILD OUT OF HOW MANY ACRES WE HAVE AND HOW MANY STAFF WE HAVE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A SMALLER THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT ON THE SIZE. I THINK WITH IT A WHILE IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY, JUST MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE. THOSE OBLIGATIONS IN THE ILA. IT DOES HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND TO A CERTAIN STANDARD. AGAIN, CO BONDS, MOST LIKELY FOR THE SAME REASONS. BUT THE ALTERNATE SITE THAT WE LOOK AT WOULD COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS 4 TO 5 ACRES JUST BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. WE WE'LL TALK A [00:35:01] LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROGRAMING AND PARTNERSHIPS. I KNOW THIS WAS A, I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THIS IS A REALLY IS A BIG ITEM. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO STRESS AGAIN, WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING HERE, SO I WOULD I WOULD CAUTION US GOING DOWN A VERY DEEP DIVE ON PARTNERSHIPS AND PROGRAMING AT THIS POINT WHEN WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD. BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON PROGRAMING AND PARTNERSHIPS. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY DON'T MATERIALLY CHANGE THAT MUCH DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU'RE DOING THE PARTNERSHIP OR IN CITY, YOU'RE GOING TO DO A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS. IT'S JUST THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE AND THE REACH OF WHAT YOU'RE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO OPTION TWO, THE, THE LARGER ILA MODEL, IT SUPPORTS A BROADER REGION, A BIGGER POPULATION. AND YOU COULD PROBABLY LEVERAGE SOME OF YOUR GOVERNMENT PARTNERS ACROSS HAYS COUNTY TO REALLY HELP WITH SOME OF THAT STUFF. AND OPTION THREE, OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE MUCH SMALLER, BUT CAL CONTROLS ALL THE FUNDS AND PROGRAMING. I WON'T READ THROUGH THESE FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EARLY PROGRAMING DISCUSSIONS, NOT ONLY WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT AND CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT ORIGINALLY WITH THE FEASIBILITY BUT ALSO WITH THE PROGRAM CONFIRMATION. A LOT OF THESE ELEMENTS CAME OUT AND WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS ON, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES AT THIS POINT. SO I THINK THIS IS MAYBE THE MOST TELLING, MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE IS THE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO BRING BACK. YOUR OPTION TWO IS THE ILA PARTNERSHIP. YOUR OPTION THREE IS THE STANDALONE FACILITY. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE CITY OF CAL COSTS ONLY. YOU CAN SEE THE CAPITAL COSTS 7.1 FOR THE LARGER FACILITY, 6 TO 9 MILLION FOR THE FOR THE KYLE ONLY FACILITY, ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY OPERATING COSTS AS WELL. HOWEVER, YOU GET SQUARE FOOTAGE, OBVIOUSLY MUCH LARGER FOR THE LARGER FACILITY, SMALLER FOR THE FOR THE CITY ONLY. AND THE INTAKE IS IS SUBSTANTIAL. YOU'RE TAKING IN WAY MORE ANIMALS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF ANIMALS, DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH THE ANIMALS VERSUS THE CITY OF CAL, ONLY FUNDING ABOUT THE SAME FOR EACH COS IT SAYS OR. BUT MOST LIKELY COS THE SITE WOULD. WE WOULD NEED IF WE WANT A STANDALONE WOULD BE SMALLER. IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER. BUT THE 6 TO 7 ACRES FOR THE LARGER 4 TO 5 FOR THE SMALLER OWNERSHIP STAYS THE SAME. PROGRAMMATIC AND OWNERSHIP OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE CITY OF CAL POLICY DECISIONS. AND COUNCILMEMBER TOBY BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME WE HAD A DISCUSSION. I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING POLICY DECISIONS IN THE ILA DO STAND WITH THE CITY OF CAL. THE CITY OF CAL MAKES ALL POLICY DECISIONS. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE PARTNERS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WOULD BE ON OUR OUR ANIMALS OR BOARD, BUT WOULD BE PARTNERS IN POLICY DECISIONS AS WELL THAT WE CERTAINLY IGNORE. THEY ARE A PART IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND SO WE WHILE WE DO HAVE POLICY DECISION, IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO WORK WITH OUR GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE DIVERGENT IN THOUGHT WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THOSE POLICY DECISIONS. WHEREAS IF WE WENT ALONE, THE CITY HAS FULL AUTHORITY OVER THOSE DECISIONS. AND THEN PROGRAMING AND PARTNERSHIPS, LIKE WE SAID, STAYS THE SAME. IT'S JUST A LARGER FOOTPRINT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE, THOSE ELEMENTS. I TRIED TO BREAK THIS DOWN INTO SOME, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS VERSUS BENEFITS. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH IT. ULTIMATELY, BOTH OPTIONS RESULT IN A RELATIVELY SIMILAR FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FOR CAL. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, BUT PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT CAPACITY AND GOVERNANCE MODELS, WHICH I THINK YOU CAN ALSO SEE IN THIS SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON. OUR NEXT STEPS AFTER THIS CONVERSATION AND GETTING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WOULD BE TO BRING BACK A RESOLUTION WITH THAT DIRECTION AND THEN INCLUDE WHATEVER ELEMENT IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP WITH DESIGN AND THEN CONSTRUCTION ALL LAID OUT. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE MORE NUANCED ELEMENTS OF LOCATION AND EVALUATIONS AND PROGRAMING AND DESIGN WOULD ALL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS REALLY JUST THE FIRST STEP. NOW UNDER OPTIONS. THIS IS KIND OF INTERESTING THE WAY THIS WORKED OUT. WE HAVE DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP, AND WE HAVE DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION THREE, WHICH IS CITY ONLY. THERE IS AN EXTRA LINE DOWN THERE, AND IT WORKED OUT PERFECTLY BECAUSE AS WE STARTED EVALUATING WHAT'S GOING ON IN NOT JUST THE ELECTION THAT'S COMING UP, BUT ALSO ALL THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE NOW MOVING AND MERGING AND POSSIBLY DOING THINGS IN KYLE. AND THEN ALSO WE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY, I TALKED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND I ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS Y'ALL'S THOUGHT ON THE CURRENT ILA AND WHERE WE'RE AT? AND THEY'RE THEY WERE VERY UPFRONT. THEY SAID, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A WE KNOW WE'RE PART OF AN ILA. IF COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH ILA, THEY WERE VERY AWARE OF THIS PRESENTATION. THEY SAID, IF COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE OPEN TO TALK, OPEN TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS. BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT MANY OTHER OPTIONS AS IS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. AS THEY SHOULD, RIGHT? I WOULD I WOULD NEVER TELL THEM NOT TO. HOWEVER, WHEN I ASKED [00:40:01] IF WHAT IF, WHAT THOSE OPTIONS MIGHT BE, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I WOULDN'T TELL THEM WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. THEY, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAYBE NOT SAY RIGHT NOW WHAT OPTIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY, OR IF THAT MEANS IN A TOTALITY OF THE COUNTY. BUT WITH ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, THE NONPROFITS AND COUNTY, THE OPTIONS THAT ARE COMING UP. AS A THIRD OPTION FOR, I WOULD POSIT, A PAUSE AND A POSSIBLE OUTREACH TO NOT ONLY THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO SOME OF THESE NONPROFITS AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN KYLE, JUST AS AN ELEMENT OF WE KNOW THAT FOR THAT FINAL FOURTH OPTION THAT WE LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED AT THE TIME, WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS VIABLE AT THIS POINT. AND IT. AND IF IT IS. AND WE MOVE FORWARD KNOW, TEN, $20 MILLION BUILDING, IF ABOUT CONTRACTS AND EVALUATIONS BEFORE WE SAY THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN. SO THAT COULD ALSO BE A DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL FOR TO DIRECT STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND REALLY NAIL DOWN WHERE THEY'RE AT, REACH OUT TO THESE NONPROFITS AND SEE WHAT THEIR PLAN IS. AND IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH CONTRACT, I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY A THIRD OPTION. BUT IF COUNCIL IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS, WE ARE READY TO TAKE IT AND MOVE. SO WE WILL. I WILL NOW STOP TALKING AND LET YOU GUYS DISCUSS. I HAVE BREANNA HERE, I BELIEVE. YES, AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT ARE GET ME OVER MY SKIS, I'LL ABSOLUTELY HAVE HER. SHE'S INCREDIBLE. BUT AGAIN, I WILL ALSO REITERATE AT THE VERY BEGINNING HERE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE, BUT WE REALLY ARE LOOKING AT WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GOING IN FROM HERE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. SO STARTS A DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER GARZA. I HAVE MORE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING, BUT I FIND IT VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE FROM OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE VERY INVOLVED IN THE ANIMAL CARE AND TRAPPING AND TAKING CARE OF THESE ANIMALS, AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING US TO HOLD OFF AT LEAST UNTIL NOVEMBER ELECTIONS. I THINK THAT IF WE START MOVING FORWARD WITH MAKING A LARGE BUILDING AND GETTING ALL OF THAT DONE, AND THEN THE COUNTY DECIDES, WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE ALL THIS. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THESE WHAT THE NOVEMBER ELECTION IS GOING TO BRING AND SEE WHAT COUNTY IS GOING TO DO AND WHAT THESE PARTNERS ARE GOING TO DO. SO THAT'S THE WAY I'M LEANING ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE WAY THE COUNTY HAS UNFORTUNATELY FLIPPED WITH THIS DILEMMA FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS ALREADY, THINGS BEING STARTED AND THEN STOPPED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN A SPACE WHERE ONCE WE START MOVING, THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING STANDING IN OUR WAY AND WE CAN KEEP GOING BECAUSE IT IS CRITICAL. WE WERE LUCKY TO GET THAT EXTRA YEAR WITH THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL AUTHORITY TO KEEP US ON AND NOT DISPLACE OUR ANIMALS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT AND DOING IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. SO KNOWING WHERE THE COUNTY LIES, BECAUSE DEPENDING UPON WHO COMES IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICAL GAMES RIGHT NOW WHO COMES INTO THE OFFICE IN NOVEMBER IS GOING TO TELL US FOR SURE WHAT DIRECTION THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GO, BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ANSWERS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT ANSWER FOR OUR NEEDS, BECAUSE YOU GET AN ANSWER TODAY AND THEN YOUR ANSWER IS DIFFERENT. SO I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS THAT AS WELL. THE INVISIBLE THIRD OPTION. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. YEAH, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL AFTER NOVEMBER TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY AFTER THAT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO KEEP THE OPTION OF THE PARTNERSHIPS OPEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT BEAUTY WILL DO IF THEY DON'T WORK WITH US AND THEY DON'T EITHER. I DON'T THINK. I THINK THAT A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY IS CRITICAL. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THIS ETJ WHERE THE ANIMALS ARE GOING TO COME TO US ANYWAY, WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY IS HELPING FUND THE SERVICES FOR THEM. SO I THINK WAITING WOULD BE THE MORE PRUDENT OPTION. OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM GOOD. I'M GLAD EVERYBODY'S FINALLY SEEING THAT. IT COULD BE ALL THIS GO DOWN TO BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO POLITICS IN THE END. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE FOR THE PAST YEAR, I'VE BEEN ASKING YOU, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT? AND IT'S STILL WELL, I'M SPEAKING TO SO AND SO AND SO SO, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO DIRECTION. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SENT AN EMAIL THE OTHER DAY TO YOU GUYS THAT LOOKS LIKE BUDDHA IS TEAMING UP [00:45:01] ON FINDING OUT DIRECTION, GETTING AN ILA MAYBE WITH THE COUNTY. AND I'VE ASKED, WHERE ARE WE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS STILL, YOU KNOW, NOTHING GOING ON. THEY'RE STILL PRETTY MUCH RADIO SILENCE. BEEN BEEN ASKING ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS. AND NOW EVERYBODY'S KIND OF GOING, WELL, LET'S WAIT FOR AFTER THE ELECTIONS AND SO FORTH. EVEN THOUGH WHEN WE'RE TAKING THIS VOTE EARLIER THIS YEAR, I WAS HEARING PEOPLE FROM COUNCIL SAYING, WELL, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MANY, MANY YEARS NOW. WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON. SO I KNOW BACK THIS SUMMER, MAYOR, DID YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSIONERS REGARDING WHERE WE STOOD WITH AN ILA AND DID DID YOU. THEY WANTED TO DO LIKE A MEET UP, BUT THE CALENDARS DIDN'T WEREN'T MATCHING, DIDN'T MATCH UP. AND IT WAS JUST, I THINK BECERRA BECERRA HAD REACHED BACK OUT TO ME. OKAY. AND THEN THE MAYOR FROM BUDA SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING ON YOU GUYS. SO BUT THERE'S BEEN NO REAL LIKE CONCRETE KIND OF LIKE, THIS IS THE PLAN. AND IT KIND OF FROM MY POINT AND FROM OTHERS, YOU NEED TO GET KIND OF CONCERNED WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A, A CONTRACT WITH THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, LET'S GET THIS GOING. BUT THEY SEE KYLE AS SOMEBODY THAT'S TAKEN THE LEAD ON IT. NOW, LOOKING AT THE LARGER MAP OF HOW MUCH INTAKE THE CITY OF KYLE WILL HAVE TO ENDURE, 75%. THAT'S A LOT. SO IMAGINE VOTING FOR THIS AND MOVING FORWARD AND SAYING, YEAH, LET'S TEAM UP WITH BUDA AND I MEAN BUDA AND HAYS COUNTY. IMAGINE WHAT THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO SAY. WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT'S BUDA DOING ON THERE? AND WHAT ABOUT WHY ARE WE KYLE RESIDENTS HAVING TO TAKE THAT BURDEN ON WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF, OR THE 1.3 MILLION OPERATING COST? AGAIN, REMEMBER HOW WE WERE JUST ARGUING ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT PAY RAISES AND ABOUT GIVING A STIPEND OF $1,800 TO OUR CITY STAFF AND JUST BARELY HAVING A CUSHION OF MAYBE UNDER $1 MILLION. SO NOW HERE'S ADDING THAT 1.32 WITH JUST A TRI PARTY. OKAY, SO WHAT IF THINGS CHANGE TO WHERE THOSE INCREASE? SO IT COULD BE NOW HAYS COUNTY HAS 3.5 MILLION OPERATING COSTS AND WE NOW HAVE TWO. AND THEN BUDA HAS ONE. YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THESE CONTRACTS WORK TO SAY, HEY, I'M OUT. GUESS WHAT? SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO PICK THE BILL UP ON THIS. SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE START LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH HAYS COUNTY AND ALSO BUDA AND OTHERS, VERSUS GOING WITH IF WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO GO STANDALONE ON OUR OWN, THE 12,000 TO 18,000FT■!S,I BELIEVE THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THE ENTIRE BUILDING OF THE SENIOR BUILDING, BECAUSE I THINK THE WHOLE BUILDING ITSELF IS ABOUT 16,000FT■!S, INCLUDING THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE. SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS FACILITY. IF WE WERE TO DO OUR OWN ON THIS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALSO THE ALTERNATE SITE, SIX, SEVEN ACRES. I MENTIONED THIS SITE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S REALLY LOOKED AT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT BY KYLE VISTA PARK. IT'S RIGHT IN THAT AREA. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MANY TIMES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY, REALLY LOOKED INTO IT. I MEAN, THAT'S 14 ACRES THERE, 12 ACRES THERE. BUT I THINK IT IT IS WHAT IT IS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS TO WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE COULD BE CHANGES FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT FROM THE COUNTY. AND THEN ON UP HERE, YOU KNOW, WE THIS IS JUST WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WHO PAYS THE PRICE THE MOST? IT'S THESE ANIMALS IN THE BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE OF POLITICS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THESE ANIMALS ARE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN NEGLECTING. BUT THEN AGAIN, I WENT BACK EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS. AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY. I EVEN MADE A COMMENT OR A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE BLANKETS AND THE WATER AND THE SEWAGE AND THE SANITATION AND THE, THE VETERINARIAN BILL AND HIRING A VETERINARIAN. AND THEN ALSO THE WASTE AND ALL THAT. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL COST NO MATTER WHAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO, TO CONSIDER. BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST, I'M JUST VERY HESITANT ON THIS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ANYBODY FROM COMMISSIONERS COURT FROM BUDA EVEN COME UP TO OUR MEETINGS TO [00:50:01] DISCUSS, HEY, WE ARE ALL IN THIS. I'VE YET TO SEE ANY OF THAT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, ANYTHING TO ADD? I DO ACTUALLY, YES. I WILL. I WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WALT DID SHOW UP. SO IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY HASN'T. I TAKE THAT BACK. YES. MR. SMITH DID SHOW UP. I, I REACH OUT TO A COUPLE PEOPLE FROM WITH THE, YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF CAPACITY THEY'RE LOOKING AT. THEY THEY DON'T KNOW YET. I'M FINE. WAIT A LITTLE BIT. NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR THE ELECTION. I THINK POLITICS IS BAD REASON TO MAKE POLICY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE FOR, YOU KNOW, THESE ANIMALS WHO CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. BUT TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT SERVICES THEY'RE PICKING UP, IF IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS PLAYED INTO THIS. SO I THINK DELAYING FOR A LITTLE BIT WHILE WE COLLECT SOME MORE INFORMATION, IT'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HINDER US TREMENDOUSLY. I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR JESSE. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND OPTION THREE, AND THIS JUST STANDALONE CITY OF KYLE, WHAT WOULD BE OUR STANCE AND OUR POLICY? BECAUSE WE'RE BASING A LOT OF THESE DECISIONS OFF OF SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER INTAKE ANIMALS THAT COME IN FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR SERVICE AREA. WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM? WHAT ARE WE PROJECTING AND EXPECTING TO HAPPEN? I AM GOING TO INVITE BRIANNA UP HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BRIANNA GETTYS, ANIMAL CONTROL SUPERVISOR, CITY OF KYLE. SO WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMALS FROM OUTSIDE YOUR SERVICE AREA, THAT DOES GET VERY COMPLICATED. IT'S WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE STILL NEEDS TO BE EXISTING ILA BETWEEN ANY SHELTERS IN THE AREA THAT WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY, THEY CAME FROM THOSE AREAS AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH THEM GETTING THEM TRANSFERRED BACK TO THOSE AREAS. IF THEY GET AT YOUR DOOR, THEY'RE YOURS. THERE'S NO SAYING TO THOSE ANIMALS. THEY ARE. THEY ARE YOURS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DUMPED. AND THAT'S WITH ANY. EVEN PRIVATE, HUMANE SOCIETY IS GETTING ANIMALS DUMPED THERE. DOOR ON ON THE REGULAR OR EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD ONE AT PAWS SINCE THEY'VE CLOSED DOWN. THAT WAS. THAT'S BEEN MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH GOING AS A STANDALONE VEHICLE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE SHOWING UP REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE ACCOUNT FOR THEM OR NOT. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE'RE PUTTING THE LIABILITY AND THE BURDEN STRICTLY ON CITY OF KYLE TAXPAYERS AND NOT SHARING THAT COST WITH THE REST OF THE AREA THAT'S FIGHTING THE THE NEED WITHOUT PROVIDING THE BENEFIT OF COVERING IT. OKAY, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ONE OF THEM WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE ANIMALS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. BUT YOU SAID WE COULD ALSO DO AN ILA AS WELL. YEAH, BECAUSE I HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT WITH MARCUS AT ONE POINT TO BECAUSE IT'S A VERB, THERE'S ALSO VERBAL AGREEMENTS AND VERBAL WAYS THAT WE DEAL WITH. LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANIMALS THAT AN OWNER IS NOT GOING TO RECLAIM. AND ITS ORIGINAL SHELTER WAS A DIFFERENT SHELTER. AND YOU WANT GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE SHELTERS AS ORIGINATING SHELTERS SO THAT YOU CAN TRANSFER THOSE ANIMALS BACK. AND SAN MARCOS, BECAUSE THEY MARK THEM IMMEDIATELY IF THEY HAVE TRACEABLE INFORMATION TO AN OLDER SHELTER, EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE AN OWNER, THAT WAY THEY CAN GET BACK TO THAT ONE BECAUSE MOST FACILITIES WILL TAKE THEM BACK MOST OF THE TIME. OKAY, SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS GOING TO BE WHAT? WHAT KIND OF DIFFERENCES ARE THERE FOR THE ANIMALS? SAY, IF WE DID IT IN ILA, WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE COUNTY. NOW THAT WE'RE COVERING THE COUNTY, IT'S MORE THAN DOGS AND CATS, RIGHT? SO WHAT COULD THEIR WHAT COULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, COUNTY STILL IS OBLIGATED FOR THE LIVESTOCK. THAT'S ALWAYS THAT'S STATE LAW. WE EVEN HAVE OUR ORDINANCE WRITTEN TO WHERE EVERYTHING JUST TRANSFERS TO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, LIKE THE SMALLER LIVESTOCK WE HANDLE INTERNALLY AND JUST LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE. LIKE IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A DEAL WHEN IT'S A CHICKEN OR SOMETHING REALLY SMALL, BUT WHEN IT STARTS TO GET TO GOATS AND HORSES AND COWS, THEN WE THEY HAVE A WRANGLER, THEY HAVE A CONTRACTED WRANGLER WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH GETTING ANIMALS PICKED UP. SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME DELAY, BUT WE BABYSIT THE ANIMALS UNTIL THEY COME. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PUT THEM INTO OUR FACILITY. TYPICALLY, WE PUT SOMETHING IN THE PLANS JUST SO [00:55:02] THAT WE HAD A BACKUP OPTION AND HELP WITH THE WRANGLER, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SIT ON FOR AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF WAITING FOR THE WRANGLER, AND WE COULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS. WE JUST LOAD THEM UP AND GET OUR FACILITY. OKAY, DOES WALDEN YULIN, DO THEY HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS? YULIN PD DOES HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT HAYS COUNTY, CURRENTLY HAYS COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL DOES DO THEIR CONTRACT FOR THEIR AREA AND TAKES THEIR ANIMALS IN. MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE TAKE OVER NIEDERWALD AND YOU LAND, DOES THAT FALL DIRECTLY ON US? THEN DO WE PICK UP AND DROP OFF? LIKE, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WHEN CRAFTING THE ILA, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THEY ARE CURRENTLY DEFERRING TO THE COUNTY. SO WE WOULD BECOME THE THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THAT. ANYTHING THAT WAS LEGAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AS A CITY ENTITY LIKE FINES OR SEIZURES, I BELIEVE. BUT IF IT'S JUST AN ANIMAL IN THAT AREA, YES, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING IN THAT IN THAT RED AREA. UNLESS IT WAS CRIMINAL, RIGHT? WE WOULD STILL DEFER TO THEM. IF IT WAS CRIMINAL AND THE DOG NEEDED TO BE QUARANTINED FOR TEN DAYS, THEY WOULD COME TO US. YES. THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY LIVESTOCK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HAYS COUNTY HAS A STRAY OFFICER. CORRECT. THEY DO NOT HAVE AN OFFICER. THEY JUST WORK WITH THEIR WRANGLER, THEIR HOUSES, THEM AT HIS FACILITY. SO I'M NOT I DIDN'T MEAN INTERRUPT MAYOR IF YOU'RE STILL DONE IT DID. WERE THEY TRYING TO HAVE A CONTRACT OR ANY OF THAT SPECIFIC LIVESTOCK WOULD END UP IN THE DRIPPING SPRINGS SHELTER ON THAT END DUE TO THE AREA? DO YOU KNOW BY CHANCE? I KNOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A CENTER OUT THERE THEY THOUGHT IS IN IN THEIR PLANS TO BUILD A LIVESTOCK CORRAL HOLDING PEN AREA FOR THOSE TYPE OF ANIMALS TO WHERE THEY WOULD GET SHIPPED OR DOWN THE TRAIL FOR THAT. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY ARE STILL PLANNING ON USING THEIR BECAUSE THEIR WRANGLER HAS A RANCH AND A FARM THAT HE CAN HOUSE, A FAIR AMOUNT OF ANIMALS AND OF VARYING SIZES. SO THEY'VE. THEY'VE HISTORICALLY JUST USED HIM, I. THEY MAY POTENTIALLY EVENTUALLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD NEED MORE THAN ONE CONTRACT, BUT THEY CURRENTLY JUST HAVE ONE CONTRACT. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO THE WAY I SIT IS WE NEED SOME MOVEMENT TO SHOW SAN MARCOS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO, TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD? I LOVE THE IDEA OF LIKE COMMUNITY INPUT, AS, YOU KNOW, BRINGING LIKE A COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO KIND OF GUIDE US. MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF WE START A COMMITTEE AND WE DON'T, THE HAYS COUNTY DECIDES TO BUILD THEIR OWN, THEN I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME, BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL KYLE RESIDENTS THERE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THEY GIVE SOME FEEDBACK I DID WE DID GET I MET EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR ANIMAL WELFARE, AND THEY DID SUGGEST THAT HAVING OUR ADVISORY BOARD AND IN ADVANCE OF THE PROJECT IS NOT A BAD IDEA TO START GETTING INPUT. SO HAVING MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY SHELTER ADVISORY, BUT MAYBE AN ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD AS OPPOSED TO A SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD. ONE THING I WOULD SAY AS WELL THAT MIGHT HELP IS THIS IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS, BUT WE REACHED OUT TO SAN MARCOS, MEET WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS, WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND MAYBE GET SOME IDEAS FROM THEM. AS FAR AS THOSE TYPES OF THOSE. IF WE IF WE DID PUT TOGETHER AN ANIMAL ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THEIR STANDPOINT, WHAT WOULD THEY SEE AS MOVING? JUST LAY OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEFORE US SO THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY, WE'RE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT WITH WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. I THINK THAT WHAT THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM THEM BASED ON THIS NEXT YEAR THAT WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT, WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THOSE NEXT STEPS. AND WE'RE ALREADY SETTING UP THAT MEETING WITH THEM. OKAY. I SPOKE TO THEM AT THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FAIR, AND THEY, I WAS THERE FOR LIKE TEN MINUTES AND THEY GAVE ME A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, A LOT OF DON'TS, MORE THAN DO'S LIKE, HEY, MAKE SURE. AND THEY TOLD US THAT WE SHOULD TOUR SHIRTS AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ESTABLISHED FACILITIES. AND SO HOPEFULLY IF, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I THINK THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA JUST OVERALL IN GENERAL, TO GIVE THE ANIMALS A VOICE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF NONPROFITS THAT HELP OUT, BUT IF WE CAN FACILITATE A WAY FOR THEM TO COME TOGETHER, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY FEELS ABOUT ANOTHER BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S I GET IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT I THINK [01:00:01] THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT GET TOGETHER AND THEY I REMEMBER SEEING THEM WHEN WE WERE DOING THE T AND V ARE AND THEY WERE LIKE, ON IT. IT'S, IT'S AND IT'S ANIMAL ACTIVISTS. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, WE NEED TO BE HERE FOR THESE ANIMALS. AND SO I THINK EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH, THAT IT'S WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT TO BUILD THIS COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BENEFIT TO HAVING AN ANIMAL SERVICE BOARD OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY ON OUR TIMELINE AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO PUT THAT BOARD TOGETHER. SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY START LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND WHAT IT TAKES TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND SET UP. YEAH. MOVING FORWARD, ANOTHER OPTION OPTION FOR YOU'VE STATED ALREADY. WELL, I DID READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS BECAUSE I DID FORWARD IT TO YVONNE AND I GUESS ANIMALS LIKE AUSTIN ANIMALS IS CONSIDERING ON COMING HERE TO THIS AREA TO ASSIST. WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THEM? IF THEY ARE CURIOUS ABOUT. POSSIBLY BECAUSE THEY. THEY ALL PROBABLY KNOW THAT ALL OF US HERE HAVE ANIMALS, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FACILITY HERE CALLED FROM PAWS. RIGHT. AND WHAT HAVE WE HEARD FROM THEM? DO YOU KNOW OF. OR AS FAR AS A THE NONPROFITS OF ASSISTING IN HELPING US WITH THESE TYPES OF PLANNING? I'LL ASK BRIANA IF SHE'S HEARD ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. BUT WHAT YOU JUST STATED, MAYOR PRO TEM IS WHAT I HAVE HEARD. THAT IS. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS AS THE THIRD GHOST OPTION AS COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH I LOVE, BECAUSE I WANT TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND START CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT IS, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S HERE. SHARE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP? CAN WE HAVE HER JUST SPEAK. CAN HAVE HER JUST SPEAK TO SAY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT. YEAH. OH, COME ON UP, MA'AM. YES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND MAYBE YOU CAN GUIDE US IN. IF WE WERE TO, LET'S SAY, GO WITH AN OPTION FOR WHEN IT COMES TO THE NONPROFITS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT OR. BUT BEFORE YOU DO THAT, CAN YOU JUST GIVE YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A RANDOM AUDIENCE MEMBER, BUT THIS IS BOYETTE. MY NAME IS SHERRI. I'M THE PART OF THE TEAM THAT FOUNDED PREVENT LITTER. WE HAVE OUR CHAIRMAN OF LITTER HERE, WHO IS ALSO AN ANIMAL WELFARE EXPERT. I WOULD SAY THAT THE AUSTIN PETS ALIVE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WAS MADE THIS WEEK IS TO RESURRECT PAWS SHELTER, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT HUMANE SOCIETY WITH LIMITED INTAKE. IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF ANIMAL WELFARE TYPE OF ORGANIZATION. THEY DO NOT DO ANIMAL CONTROL. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO THE ANIMALS THAT THE OFFICERS BRING. THEN THEY HAVE QUITE A WAYS TO GO. THEIR PRESS RELEASE SAID, AND THEIR WEBSITE SAID THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. THEY'RE FORMING A NEW BOARD, THEY'RE FORMING NEW POLICIES. SO WE IN THIS BODY ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE HAYS COUNTY PETS ALIVE, THE MERGER THAT THEY'RE DOING AS PART OF THE RELIEF FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN AN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY THAT SAN MARCOS IS DOING RIGHT NOW. AND IF I WERE TO BE ASKED, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR LAUREN TO COME UP HERE AND BE GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ONLY BE FAIR. I THINK THAT THIS BODY SHOULD CONSIDER DOING SOME LARGE SCALE SPAY NEUTER PROGRAMS IN THE ETJ AND TRYING TO GET PARTNERSHIP FOR THAT. IN THE MEANTIME, INSTEAD OF DELAYING AND DELAYING AND DELAYING WHILE WE SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A PART OF THOSE DELAYS FOR OVER 25 YEARS, STARTED IN 2006, WHEN THE COUNTY FIRST SAID THEY NEEDED A COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. SO WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP DELAYING. AND I KNOW THAT PAWS HAS A BANDWIDTH TO BRING TOGETHER LARGE SCALE SPAY NEUTER IN THOSE AREAS, WHICH HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS LARGE INTAKE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WOULD DISAGREE THAT VACCINATIONS WOULD BE ABORTED, AND THOSE ARE VERY CHEAP. SO GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AS EXPERT OF SOME SORT, I WOULD SAY THAT WE AT LEAST NEED TO PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION FOR THE SAKE OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY ANIMALS TO BE PROACTIVE, TO NOT JUST LET THEM KEEP HAVING LITTERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SHE'S LEFT. SO I'M OKAY. DIDN'T KNOW SHE HAD LEFT. YOU'RE GOOD. NO I AGREE. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE ANIMALS THAT ARE REPRODUCING AND COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM. I AGREE, I AGREE AND THE CITY DOES HAVE A CITY DOES HAVE A SPAY NEUTER PROGRAM. AND AND I THINK MAYBE WE CAN DO A BETTER IDEA OF ADVERTISING THAT I MEAN, I THINK IT'S STILL IN OUR BUDGET, RIGHT? THERE ARE WAYS [01:05:07] TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES, THE HUMAN SERVICES AGENCIES, AND TO TALK TO THEIR COUNSELORS AND THEIR CASEWORKERS AND TO BE MORE TARGETED, AND THAT POSSIBLY BE LESS THAN GOING DIRECT THROUGH ANIMAL CONTROL. THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE WORKING THROUGH SOCIAL SERVICES, SENIORS, FOOD BANKS, AND SAYING, YOU GOT CLIENTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE PETS IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD WHILE THEY'RE ALSO IN NEED FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND DOING A CONCENTRATED ONE, TWO, THREE DAY LARGE SCALE VACCINATION SPAY NEUTER CLINIC. IT'S BEING DONE ALL OVER THE STATE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, JESSE, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY WE NEED SOME KIND OF BORDER COMMITTEE TO, TO HELP US WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S STUFF I DON'T KNOW. AND SO I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A PROCESS TO DO A BORDER COMMISSION OR WHAT WOULD THIS BE? WOULD THIS BE A COMMITTEE? I DON'T KNOW, IT WOULD BE A BOARD. ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, STARTING THAT IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL MEETINGS. SO MAYBE WE COULD START THAT AT LEAST. ABSOLUTELY. I'M HEARING ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD REACH OUT TO SAN MARCOS, MEET WITH THEM, GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM, REACH OUT TO HAYS COUNTY, TALK TO THEM. ANY NONPROFITS OR ANYONE OPERATING IN THE AREA, GET SOME MEETINGS WITH THEM, AND THEN COME BACK WITH KIND OF A, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THAT SHOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE ELECTION CYCLE. AND WE'LL KNOW BETTER FROM THE FROM AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING. THAT'S I THINK THAT IS THE THIRD GHOST OPTION THERE. BUT I DO WANT TO SECOND WHAT COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY SAID. I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE. I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE VOTES BASED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, POLITICS. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON, ALTHOUGH IT'S IT'S VERY MUCH REALISTIC. LIKE WE I GET IT, I WAS PART OF IT LAST YEAR. I'M PART OF IT THIS YEAR. BUT I THINK BECAUSE IT IS A JUDGE, THE POSITIONS THAT ARE NOW OPEN ARE GOING TO BE VITAL TO THIS PROGRAM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. AND WE HAVE TWO VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF THOUGHTS IN THAT. SO YEAH, I DON'T AGREE IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT I DO AGREE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WAIT UNTIL JANUARY, BUT HAVE THE BALL MOVING ON. EVERYTHING ELSE. UNDERSTOOD. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION IN REGARDS TO AUSTIN PETS ALIVE. AND SHERRY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER ON THIS ONE, WEREN'T THEY? AT ONE POINT PARTNERING WITH SAN MARCOS REGIONAL AUTHORITY? AND WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED WITH THAT? IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST WORD. AUSTIN IS PROVIDED SERVICES TO TO RESCUE ANIMALS WHICH WERE CRITICALLY IN DANGER YEARS. THERE WAS A POINT WHERE 7672 CATS WERE TAKEN FROM SAN MARCOS SHELTER. THE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WAS WITH HAYS COUNTY. I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND THAT WAS TO DO AN EVENT PLANNING. AND THEN THE PHASE THAT WAS TERMINATED WAS PROGRAM COORDINATION. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT SITES. THERE WAS A SITE RECOMMENDATION, AND SOME OF THE SAME PLACES WERE IN THE ETJ AREA FOR THE SAME REASONS. AND THAT COMMITTEE WAS THE PURCHASING, THE ATTORNEY, ALL IN THE COUNTY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE FROM COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, THE CHIEF OF STAFF, MYSELF. AND IT ENDED UP FAILING BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT WAS SHOWN TO BE EXPENSIVE. AND MR. SMITH ACTUALLY SPOKE ABOUT THAT AND SAID THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE COST OF PROGRAMS AND SHELTER DIVERSION. AS THEY STARTED READING THESE PLANS. AND IT'S THE SAME SIMILAR NUMBER TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NOW THAT TRUSTEE SAID IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF LAND AND THOSE THOSE THINGS WERE REALIZED. AND SO THEY PUT THE KIBOSH ON IT. AND SOME OF IT WAS FOR POLITICAL REASONS. SO IT ALL GOT DELAYED AGAIN, BUT IT WAS NOT WITH THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER. IT WAS WITH COUNTY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR DIRECTION. JESSIE. YES. OKAY. I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR. AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS AND AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I DO WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION. SO IN OUR CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM TWO, IT WAS SIX ZERO NOT SEVEN ZERO. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AMY. ALL RIGHT. IT IS A RESOLUTION. IT'S STILL EFFECTIVE. STILL EFFECTIVE. YES. [V) Executive Session] WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I'M GOING TO SAY TWO THINGS. SO THE CITY WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM FOUR A PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.076 AND 551.089. WE ARE GOING TO ASK THAT THE AUDIENCE LEAVE THE ROOM ANY AREA FROM WHICH THEY CAN SEE THE ROOM. WE'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY TRAINING. AND SO, I MEAN, HOPEFULLY WE NEVER HAVE TO USE IT. BUT JUST IN CASE, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SHUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN OFF TO PRACTICE SOME SAFETY PROCEDURES. SO THANK YOU. YES. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.